Final Chapters (9-12) of Wind in the Willows! And, a reminder – I will leave the questions up, so if you haven’t started yet, or are behind, please comment when you get to the chapters! I appreciate all of the comments and answers, and as always have learned a lot.
1) In Chapter 9, a restless Rat meets a Seafaring Rat who entices him with the lure of the open sea and of travelling. Entranced, Rat starts to leave with him, but is hindered by Mole. What did you think of this scene, and what did you think of Mole’s cure for his wanderlust?
2) Chapter 10 is the Further Adventures of Toad where he lies, cheats, steals, and makes his way home. What did you think of his adventures, and do you think he’s grown or changed at the end of this chapter?
3) In Chapter 11, Rat tells Toad, “Now, Toady, I don't want to give you pain, after all you've been through already; but, seriously, don't you see what an awful ass you've been making of yourself? On your own admission you have been handcuffed, imprisoned, starved, chased, terrified out of your life, insulted, jeered at, and ignominiously flung into the water--by a woman, too! Where's the amusement in that? Where does the fun come in?” and Toad’s response is, perhaps surprisingly, “Now, it was a very comforting point in Toad's character that he was a thoroughly good-hearted animal and never minded being jawed by those who were his real friends. And even when most set upon a thing, he was always able to see the other side of the question. So although, while the Rat was talking so seriously, he kept saying to himself mutinously, `But it WAS fun, though! Awful fun!' and making strange suppressed noises inside him, k-i-ck-ck-ck, and poop-p-p, and other sounds resembling stifled snorts, or the opening of soda-water bottles, yet when the Rat had quite finished, he heaved a deep sigh and said, very nicely and humbly, `Quite right, Ratty! How SOUND you always are! Yes, I've been a conceited old ass, I can quite see that; but now I'm going to be a good Toad, and not do it any more.” – he resolves to return to Toad Hall but is thwarted by the fact that it was taken over by stroats and weasels. The rest of the chapter involves plans to reclaim Toad Hall by our crew of four. What do you think of Toad’s response to Rat? What do you think of the preparations for the “big battle?”
4) Chapter 12 is the climatic battle, and resolution. What do you think of this chapter? Is it a satisfying ending to this situation?
5) Our book ends “After this climax, the four animals continued to lead their lives, so rudely broken in upon by civil war, in great joy and contentment, undisturbed by further risings or invasions. Toad, after due consultation with his friends, selected a handsome gold chain and locket set with pearls, which he dispatched to the gaoler's daughter with a letter that even the Badger admitted to be modest, grateful, and appreciative; and the engine-driver, in his turn, was properly thanked and compensated for all his pains and trouble. Under severe compulsion from the Badger, even the barge-woman was, with some trouble, sought out and the value of her horse discreetly made good to her; though Toad kicked terribly at this, holding himself to be an instrument of Fate, sent to punish fat women with mottled arms who couldn't tell a real gentleman when they saw one. The amount involved, it was true, was not very burdensome, the gipsy's valuation being admitted by local assessors to be approximately correct.
Sometimes, in the course of long summer evenings, the friends would take a stroll together in the Wild Wood, now successfully tamed so far as they were concerned; and it was pleasing to see how respectfully they were greeted by the inhabitants, and how the mother-weasels would bring their young ones to the mouths of their holes, and say, pointing, `Look, baby! There goes the great Mr. Toad! And that's the gallant Water Rat, a terrible fighter, walking along o' him! And yonder comes the famous Mr. Mole, of whom you so often have heard your father tell!' But when their infants were fractious and quite beyond control, they would quiet them by telling how, if they didn't hush them and not fret them, the terrible grey Badger would up and get them. This was a base libel on Badger, who, though he cared little about Society, was rather fond of children; but it never failed to have its full effect.” What did you think of this ending? And, what did you think of the book overall?
6) The delightful Grace passed along an article from the Telegraph about Kenneth Grahame. The link keeps timing out, so I've copied and pasted it above. After learning more about his life, does it alter or change your opinion of the book?
7) Anything I’ve missed?
Thank you everyone! My appreciation for this book has been greatly enhanced by your comments and thoughts.
Happy Feast of the Dormition tomorrow to those of my Orthodox friends and family on the New Calendar (like us) and a Blessed Fast to those on the Old Calendar.
(photo credit and an interesting online discussion)
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all three posts are now up on my blog...
I couldn't open that link, though...
Eeeek! Sorry about that! I'm going to try to fix it, but here it is:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/donotmigrate/3671092/Kenneth-Grahame-Lost-in-the-wild-wood.html
Comments soon, but it was *finally* sunny in Oxford this afternoon after days of clouds and thunderstorms, so here is the long-promised photo of Kenneth Grahame's tombstone in Holywell Cemetery, which is a nature reserve and a peaceful little green oasis only a few minutes' walk from the city centre: http://pikku-myy.blogspot.com/2010/08/holywell-cemetery.html
1 - Wanderlust chapter: Initially, it seemed like it was preaching against traveling to foreign shores. But re-reading it, and considering that Grahame was well-traveled, made me think that he's not talking about the normal wish to see different places, but the sort of feverish wanting to wander just for the sake of wandering. In that case, there probably is something unwholesome about it and Mole is doing Rat a favor by "snapping him out of it."
2 - Toad's Further Adventures: Insert my usual comments about how thoroughly unattractive a character I find Toad to be. And I like him the least when he abuses other people and takes advantage of them. Which he does almost constantly.
3. - Toad's response seems like a warm-up for him Turning a New Leaf later on. I'll get to that later. But the big battle, etc. ... well, I guess I wondered how it was that a good egg like Ratty comes to have multiple sets of pistols, gunbelts, sabers, cudgels and the like. But that might've been more of Grahame's sense of absurdity.
4. Battle: I guess it is a satisfying ending to things, given that the stoats and weasels are basically just thugs.
In these days where designating one side as "good guys" and another as "bad guys" is frowned on, someone may wish for something more nuanced. But it wouldn't have been consistent with the rest of the book, and I think Grahame does better to wrap things up in one fell swoop.
5 - Ending: Well, it wraps things up, but it seems a little short for an ending.
6 - Only thing I've been mulling over ... Toad's big conversion at the end -- do you believe it or not? (Personally, I think I'm undecided.)
1) Like others have mentioned, I wasn’t quite sure what this vignette had to do with the rest of the story, except perhaps to show either that there is a vast difference between rivers in England and the great, wide sea; or to prove that Mole would recognize and “have his back” and neither of those are satisfying answers for me. So, I sit with those who were a bit nonplussed with this chapter.
2) This chapter dragged on and on, and each new adventure made me cringe more and more. Although, I did find it amusing when he was told by the lady on the boat to do her laundry. Annoyingly, though, there was no growth or change by the end of the chapter for Toad.
3) I admired Rat’s honesty and do think that Toad needed to hear it. I am a bit skeptical that after all of that, now he’s going to change, but be that as it may, it was a nice speech by Rat. I found the big battle to be kind of thrown in at the end, like maybe the author felt like it had to be a big climatic scene, or the son to whom he was telling the story begged for something action filled. I also wondered about the discrepancy in size of groups and of critters. But, then, this entire book has been filled with creatures of all sizes not noticing that the other one is an animal, or huge.
4) The battle was kind of a “and then they fought and won” type of ending.
5) I thought it was sad that Badger became the village “bogeyman” and how that must make him feel. But I did like that they were all good friends and still had their adventures. I’m still a bit skeptical about “He was indeed an altered Toad!”
6) In a way, the story of the Grahame family reminds me of the Milne family. I wonder if there is a bit of the “stiff upper lip” English gentleman of that time frame not allowing men to be loving and interactive fathers? And, I think that the lack of mental illness awareness and access to care allowed both Elspeth and Alistair to be undiagnosed and ultimately end tragically.
I was also struck at the fact that some see a connection between Toad and Alistair. What a grief that must have been to Grahame.
7) Even with the above quibbles about the strength of the ending, and the fact that I thought it started a bit slowly, I really like the overarching storyline of the book, and do think he did a great job of writing an homage to an, even then, dying way of life. It’s a very natural and beautiful story.
Every time I read it, Ch. 9 disquiets me. Might something so horrible happen to me? That poor sensible rat posessed and driven to morose abandonment of his home and friends. The seafarer was like a demon whispering in Rats ear.
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